I know nothing of the damn sort. I am associated with the event - we get our name slapped all over the website, the advertising, my pictures are all over the gallery - and I've had a number of punters complain to me about the 'slappers r us' tag. It implies the event is for slappers. It offends people. I know how I feel about it, and how I feel is upset.
I know damn well what's going on with Hazel. You can think what you like about me being in or out of the loop. I know that Hazel feels she has something to prove, but it's not to the WDS. There are some thoroughly unpleasant things going on, and we've all gotten caught up in it. I have heard from both sides and I don't want to take sides, I work for Hazel, I work for Jo, I've worked for the WDS. I like working for all parties. But I don't like being called names, and when this particular phrase cropped up on the WGW forum, I objected there and I will continue to object.
No matter who 'out-gigs' Charnel House, we have never given up. If someone puts on a busier night, we increase promotion, look at what we can do to improve, bite the bullet and take the criticism on the chin. Hazel has a lot of drive, and it's just her. She promotes the hell out of her events, looks at the criticism, makes decisions based on it, and is quite pragmatic about the whole thing.
The old WDS used to run events very close to the WGW, and people used to go to both events. You could have continued to run; some people would go to both, some would go to one or the other, and some people wouldn't go to either one. The WDS ball is clearly aimed at a very different market to Hazel's events - there are a lot of people who would rather go to a Ball than a gig or a party. There is a very successful Ball (Georgian?) run in Oxford, as well as others up and down the country. Hazel is targetting a very different audience. There is deliberately no vampire theming, and there's nothing that could even remotely be tagged a 'Ball'. I have never seen any of the sort of people you attracted to the Ball at Hazel's events, except a few people who live relatively locally and would go to whatever was on. The key is promoting to the right crowd, hence the way Hazel promotes her stuff. And it's just that - it's a persona. Like Ghost's ego, it's 9/10ths an act.
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I know damn well what's going on with Hazel. You can think what you like about me being in or out of the loop. I know that Hazel feels she has something to prove, but it's not to the WDS. There are some thoroughly unpleasant things going on, and we've all gotten caught up in it. I have heard from both sides and I don't want to take sides, I work for Hazel, I work for Jo, I've worked for the WDS. I like working for all parties. But I don't like being called names, and when this particular phrase cropped up on the WGW forum, I objected there and I will continue to object.
No matter who 'out-gigs' Charnel House, we have never given up. If someone puts on a busier night, we increase promotion, look at what we can do to improve, bite the bullet and take the criticism on the chin. Hazel has a lot of drive, and it's just her. She promotes the hell out of her events, looks at the criticism, makes decisions based on it, and is quite pragmatic about the whole thing.
The old WDS used to run events very close to the WGW, and people used to go to both events. You could have continued to run; some people would go to both, some would go to one or the other, and some people wouldn't go to either one. The WDS ball is clearly aimed at a very different market to Hazel's events - there are a lot of people who would rather go to a Ball than a gig or a party. There is a very successful Ball (Georgian?) run in Oxford, as well as others up and down the country. Hazel is targetting a very different audience. There is deliberately no vampire theming, and there's nothing that could even remotely be tagged a 'Ball'. I have never seen any of the sort of people you attracted to the Ball at Hazel's events, except a few people who live relatively locally and would go to whatever was on. The key is promoting to the right crowd, hence the way Hazel promotes her stuff. And it's just that - it's a persona. Like Ghost's ego, it's 9/10ths an act.